June 6, 2007


Over the last 6 months we’ve been working with the BBC on a time limited technical trial of the Photosynth technology in support of the 'How We Built Britain' television series. Viewers will be able to explore synths of Ely Cathedral, Burghley House, the Royal Crescent, Bath, the Scottish Parliament Buildings, and Blackpool Tower Ballroom at http://labs.live.com/photosynth/bbc/. The BBC will also have units on location at each of the historic sites to collect images from tourists visiting the sites that we will add to the synths in the weeks to come. Be sure to check out Trafalgar Square that also features some fantastic historical photography to contrast how people interacted with the locations in the past and present and check back every few weeks to see how they evolve.


Adam Sheppard
Group Product Manager

Live Labs | Microsoft

6/6/2007 7:10:15 PM UTC
This is a great idea. You guys should develop a system that allows every day users to upload their vacation pictures from all over the world. This way you can develop the database faster. So like YouTube where people can upload their videos. They can login. Look at a 3D map of somewhere in the world and add their own pictures. Therefore covering most of the world quickly.
6/6/2007 11:52:27 PM UTC
Your installer doesn't seem to detect Windows XP x64 SP2 properly: I think it has all the same support as standard XP SP2 or Vista has, but I suppose I could be wrong..
6/7/2007 9:48:02 AM UTC
I desperately would like to talk to Adam Shappard (but I'm unable to find your contact info on the site). I run the digital department at ichameleon@AMV and I would like to have a chat about Photosynth.

Please contact me.

Thanks
Gary
6/7/2007 12:18:19 PM UTC
This is the first truly innovative software to come out of MS since inline spell-checking with Word! So are there any plans to port this to Macs?
6/7/2007 5:20:01 PM UTC
Like Joshua Ray said, you guys definitely do need a picture upload system. For instance I'm going to India a few weeks, and I always visit the Golden Temple and I always take pictures.

I'm sure many people across the world have pictures on many histroical buildings.

I and pretty much everyone here would love to contribute to this awesome project.

Also, are there plans to be able to download a whole environment? So that you can view it offline?

PLEASE continue this great work.

PS, I LOVE the 'Britain in Pictures: BBC Collection' after watching the programme on BBC One. I can jump onto Photosynth and experience the environment myself.
6/7/2007 9:05:48 PM UTC
I just want to say to everyone working on this that this is THE BEST THING I EVER SEEN!!!!
it is Awesome!!!!
I cant wait to create my own photosynth!
6/9/2007 6:01:45 AM UTC
Why does your installation considers XP x64 SP2 (even with 32-bit browser) as not an XP or Vista? Any plans to fix this?
6/10/2007 9:22:22 AM UTC
Out standing Work, Thanks!

OK, you do not even have to ask, I will be a bata tester.
GIS needs Photosynth.

Regards
6/11/2007 8:51:37 PM UTC
We have an extensive collection of high resolution virtual tours from all over the world if your looking for content and development resources give us a ring. And we're located here in Seattle! Our team would love to be apart of your project.

Destination360
6/12/2007 8:39:25 PM UTC
It still does not work for Internet Explorer 6 on WinXP 64-bit. I wish it would.

But it does seem to want to work on Firefox, but after loading the plugin or data it failed as well.

The demo was awesome.

It would be really cool if the engine could be installed on local servers so companies could view thier proprietary images. I bet the military would also love to use this system. between the images available on the internt and the images they may have avilable to them, it would really help with pre-mission planning and/or post-mission analysis.
Posted by: Ed
6/13/2007 9:53:54 PM UTC
I'd love to use it for making technical manuals - you could dive in to systems and really understand how they fit together - link the images and the text for each area. It would be brilliant - like Tron!!!
6/14/2007 11:41:52 AM UTC
Wake me up when both the data and software are open and ported to linux and mac.
6/15/2007 10:59:37 PM UTC
Great piece of SW... really innovative. I am the owner of IBM Italia island on Second Life... It would be interesting to try a collection in a virtual world too... if you are interested, let me know and we can work on it. I can take all the snapshots that you need of island from different perspective. You can contact me to my office e-mail address...
6/17/2007 6:52:36 PM UTC
Ciao a tutti.
Ho notato che il programma MS Photosynt non crea un vero e propio
3D. E poi, non credete che il numero di immagini richieste sia eccessivo? Bene, noi abbiamo creato un programma che da solo 2 foto permette di creare un vero e prorpio modello 3D senza alcun intervento umano, in modo completamente automatico!
Un piccolo esempio del nostro programma potete vederlo su YOUTUBE,
Il video si chiama: 3D from TWO photos
Grazie dell'attenzione.
6/19/2007 3:09:34 PM UTC
I need to get in touch with Addam Shappard. I had my secretary look for his contact information on your website but she didn't have any luck so I am dictating this message in the hope that he reads it and can contact me.

This is Kevin from Kevin Incorporated; an emerging media firm here in the Seattle area. My secretary was describing your video to me and I was blown away. Right off the top of my head I had some ideas on how you can make your product better.

For example, what if people mailed in their pictures to you and then you used these pictures in your computer. My firm specializes in Wedding and Bar Mitzvah photography and we have a lot of photographs just sitting around that our clients, for one reason or another, didn't want. I don't want to go into too many details in a public forum like this, but for a discounted rate I could have my secretary mail these pictures to you to use in your computer. Please contact me and we'll have a chat.

Sincerely,

Kevin Hecklestein

Kevin Incorporated
http://kevin-incorporated-are.us
6/20/2007 12:30:20 AM UTC
Awesome indeed. But I can´t stop thinking that this software should be able to actually generate a 3D model from that cloud of points and then texture the model entirely using the photos. Some parts would be non-textured till the necessary photos got added to the collection. This way the user would really be able to fly-thru an actual 3D photo textured model instead of just jumping from photo to photo as it is shown in this demo (current way, despite being terrific, breaks the illusion of being there). Hope you get it done someday.
6/20/2007 8:28:41 AM UTC
Really nice but it's a pity that Linux and Mac users can't ust it.
6/21/2007 2:49:53 AM UTC
Great news !
I like this new view of Britain very much.
The richness of detail is fantastic.

Wery well done !
6/25/2007 3:23:14 PM UTC
Well, I hope you guys are proud of yourselves, you made me cry! You see, I was born with a rare form of muscular dystrophy ( Werdnig-Hoffman's variant) and have never walked a step in my life. In fact, I can't really move at all; what you are reading is voice activation and all of the mouse movement I use to navigate through the computer environment is a hands-free head mouse. So why did I cry? Because I was able to go exploring and discovering things others may not have seen; I have never been able to do that before... thank you. Also, including the navigation tools on screen was wonderful as I cannot access the wheel mouse; very nice that you give the maximum amount of flexibility even though you can readily use the product without those very same navigation tools.

As to the discovery stuff, can any of you find the Pidgeon flying over -- and possibly ruining the experience -- of those dining al Fresco? Or can you find the mysterious lady in pink with a blue backpack followed by a kid I affectionately call, "banana boy?" Making a treasure hunt contest would be a great way to get people using this technology and familiar with the navigation process.

Is there anyway I could get involved? Help to develop ideas for implementation, product enhancement, user interface improvement etc.? I am a little guy trapped in a broken body in the middle of nowhere with a big giant head crammed full of ideas and creativity. My super genius IQ (seriously, not like the coyote from the Roadrunner cartoons) would be a great benefit to anyone who cared to utilize it. As for qualifications, I have a degree in mathematics, I taught high school (even though I can't move my arms or duck, I'm terribly brave), and have a few years of administrative experience. I also bring a quite probably unique perspective of an extremely active mind encased in a completely inactive body. Think of Stephen Hawking with more zazz! Anyway, thank you for the product and I very much hope someone contacts me.

Warmest regards, Lance
6/25/2007 3:35:04 PM UTC
me again, the things I found were in Rome... stupid me for putting it here =).
6/27/2007 3:13:31 PM UTC
Thanks for all the great feedback and ideas. We're moving forward with more collections and some new fun stuff we hope to release later this year. For Ed and Dmitry, i'm sorry we haven't gotten in working for XP64. We tried, but had to meet our schedule, so that support fell out. It's on the list for our next release, though.

jonathan
Posted by: Jonathan Dughi
6/29/2007 1:58:24 AM UTC
You mentioned that generating new collections is computationally intensive - I'm sure that you would have a host of volunteers for distributed computing a la SETI@home.
6/29/2007 9:46:56 AM UTC
It is amazing software.

In my parent's hall are a pair of photos, one taken by an Italian photographer in the early 1900's and another where they took the same photo a hundred years later. If Photosynth is time-aware as well as spacially aware then you could record historical changes. If you add sound in there as well then it seems like it would be recording the whole world.
7/3/2007 6:01:45 PM UTC
You guys are doing an awesome job. Keep the good work. How does the photosynth makes its tags? Where do you guys search for pictures (other then flickr)? and will it be open to upload images of places of your preference? How will it impact the navigation as we do it today? Did you guys envision it to compete against the iPhone internet navigation system? Sooo many questions... =D

congrats!
7/4/2007 7:34:54 AM UTC
Hi Adam Sheppard
the demo is absolutely amazing. Speaking on behalf of a studio full of digital artists, we are definitely curious to know what the system can do for digital paintings as opposed to photographs. Sounds like an interesting experiment and we would be happy to be a part of that discovery process given that we have about 30 digital painters in our studio. please feel free to contact me. We aren't looking for a fee - just happy to be a part of something cool :)
ed
7/4/2007 3:18:28 PM UTC
This is afantastic program.

I was just wondering how long it takes once you have all the images that it takes to calculate the scene, eg how long did it take to do the artists studio? Do you have any time frame when it will be released for use?

Keep up the good work and if you need any beta testers please put me on the list

Cheers Steve
7/4/2007 6:47:26 PM UTC
Any thoughts on a future extension allowing dates to be accounted for?

There must be millions of photos of, say, Yosemite Valley from the last 50-100 years - you could literally watch the trees grow... or, say, the changes to the Athabasca Glacier over the years.
7/8/2007 9:26:20 PM UTC
This has got to be the stupidest thing i've ever seen. What is the point? This is not even psedo 3D. How many people are actually going to use this...10?
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7/9/2007 11:36:17 AM UTC
I am the Executive Director of the New Orleans Historic District Landmarks Commission, the city agency responsible for reviewing and approving all exterior work to buildings in New Orleans' 13 local historic districts. One of my districts, Holy Cross, located in the lower ninth ward suffered some of the worst damage from Hurricane Katrina. My agency has become the de facto repository for images of the neighborhoods under my jurisdiction with large sets of photos still coming in from non-profit relief agencies, homeowners, city depts., FEMA, and the Corps of Engineers. As you might imagine, my small staff (6 people) is drowning in a sea of digital images.
I am writing (pleading) in hopes that you might consider using Holy Cross neighborhood as your next dataset. This would not only serve the City and residents of the area but would document both the damage caused by the storm as well as the rebirth of a neighborhood.
7/11/2007 8:15:42 AM UTC
Wonderful stuff!!!! Enabling unimaginable bussiness opportunities. Please keep us informed more about the progress and when the SW will be available to the public.
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Very nice pictures!
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Back at the turn of the millennium, I and some colleagues created a proposal for Pasadena, California's Tournament of Roses, a mostly online project called the Tournament of Time. Its core component was to be a mosaic of thousands of the photographs of the Tournament of Roses that have been captured on every one of the New Year's Days from 1890 into the 21st century, both archival and news photos and the much greater number of photos made by the Rose Parade's many spectators over its nearly dozen decades.

The Tournament of Time proposed the creation of both an online digital product and a physical wall-mounted succession of stitched-together photos that, in both forms, would create a more or less continuous stream of related images proceeding simultaneously from the geographic western origin of the Parade at Colorado Boulevard and Orange Grove Avenue, and its temporal genesis in 1890 ... through the several miles of Colorado Boulevard the Parade has always traveled and the nearly twelve decades of Parade history ... to the Parade's Colorado Boulevard geographic eastern terminus at Sierra Vista Avenue, and its temporal present in the early 21st century.

The Tournament of Time space-time mosaic would necessarily be a left-to-right presentation (since time, as we all know, moves from left to right!) -- and therefore would consist entirely of photos of the serendipitously sunlit north side of Colorado Boulevard as captured over all these years by the cameras of spectators, and news and art photographers, on the south side of the street.

Despite the interest of the Tournament of Roses, insufficient corporate sponsorship materialized and the project was not created. But I remain intrigued by both the artful and participatory aspects of the Tournament of Time concept, and the way this project can occur, over the Web, anywhere and everywhere.

And now, seven years later, Photosynth and Seadragon appear to offer a great new opportunity for this endeavor's very satisfactory realization by enabling the creation of this publicly engaging online digital form of the space-and-time photo mosaic of images of the floats, bands, equestrians, and content of the Tournament of Roses and its Colorado Boulevard environment, and the visitors to the Rose Parade over the Parade's nearly 120 years of wonderful existence.

A version of the Tournament of Time space-time mosaic should be developed for a turn-of-the-'teens unveiling in 2009-2010 as the world and the Tournament of Roses finish up the first decade of the 21st century.

Photographs of the same places and same points of view made by different photographers, separated even by large blocs of time, could be brought together and displayed in beautiful spatial relationships to one other using the combination of the Photosynth picture-aggregating and Seadragon picture-searching technologies.

As more photographs make their way onto the Web, the possible picture combinations and graphic space-time mosaics this technology can produce will become ever more numerous and will produce ever more intriguing and content-rich results. Pasadena's Tournament of Roses would make a fine early presentation of the Photosynth and Seadragon technologies.

I hope that Microsoft Live Labs will contact me about making a presentation to the Tournament of Roses.

Gregory Wright
Sherman Oaks, California
11/2/2007 11:55:18 AM UTC
Great site. Those photos are really relevant. I would love to see Britain one day. I hope it would be soon.
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Photographs of the same places and same points of view made by different photographers, separated even by large blocs of time, could be brought together and displayed in beautiful spatial relationships to one other using the combination of the Photosynth picture-aggregating and Seadragon picture-searching technologies.
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Where is the overview of the technology or some kind of video? When I try to run demo from this article - it wants to run and install .exe... I do not want to install anything at the moment on the office pc :)
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Why did you guys do Britain? Do the Seattle Space Needle or something local. That would be 100% cool. And you are familiar with the area already :)
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Do you guys know if I can leave a comment on your BBC discussion thread. There where couple interesting topics raised there but my BBC registration does not go through :(
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A "Millennial" Proposal for Photosynth/Seadragon:

The end of the new millennium's first decade two years from now presents a very useful, and the only, opportunity we will have to use the remaining symbolic energy of what is still the "dawning of the new millennium" to catalyze some useful long-term thinking. And to have a last splash of millennium fun and games!

How about a 2009-2010 online celebration, enabled by the Photosynth/Seadragon technology, called "The Millennium: Ten Years After"?

A Photosynth-coordinated geography-organized display of as many images as can be gathered that captured the end of 1999 and the arrival of the 2000s -- paired with same-location images of the arrival of the new millennium's second decade at the end of 2009 -- would be a wonderful way to wind up the first one percent of this new period of history whose other end lies in a world we cannot imagine.

One potential source of turn-of-2000 images is the Millennium Photo Project's quarter-million-images archive of photographs from the worldwide celebration of the turn of the millennium (a project of Smashing Concepts of Toronto).

This super-powered deployment and online presentation of millions of photos from the turn of the 2000s, including hopefully the Millennium Photo Project's archive, could be admirably accomplished with Photosynth. Perhaps this effort will even catalyze the creation of a vast participatory, interactive "World Millennium Holomorph" (as I called my own 1990s attempt to catalyze a World Millennium Snapshot; see the description in the Internet Archive -- search "Millennium Holomorph).

This "Millennium Ten Years After" effort could be a part of a final globally shared millennial occasion to take the long view of history and Earth that the world largely failed to undertake at the millennial turning.

The great symbolic power of the arrival of the 2000s eight years ago to turn our civilization away from its headlong course toward disaster was barely used, at least in the United States (the one-dimensional distraction called 'Y2K' was a part of the reason). The shape of the third millennium lies largely in its first generation's hands, ours, since the decisions made in the next decade about our use of energy and our treatment of the environment will determine whether this will be a reasonably habitable planet or a horribly degraded one for the rest of the millennium and conceivably for the rest of humanity's time on it. Revisiting that still-recent divide of eras in the form of this gigantic global photospasm could be the illustration of the reminder that we're still at the outset of a millennial new age -- that we might yet pull ourselves together as a global civilization determined to survive and improve, and act accordingly.

Gregory Wright
Sherman Oaks, California, USA
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